Charlie Kirk Memorial Reflections | Firsthand Experience, Boldness, and Unity in CHRIST | Hanna and John Giftah

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0:49 Speaker 2: Hello everyone, Welcome to this edition of the Fuel for

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0:54 Speaker 2: honor for me to be with you today, and I'm

0:56 Speaker 2: also so grateful to have Hannah with us all the

1:00 Speaker 2: from Arizona. Hannah, thank you so much for joining us today.

1:04 Speaker 3: Hello, it's an honor being here.

1:07 Speaker 4: Thank you.

1:09 Speaker 2: So the thing is this, you know how I connected

1:11 Speaker 2: with Hannah is that recently we had this Charlie Kirk's

1:15 Speaker 2: memorial and you guys know how this has been such

1:19 Speaker 2: a monumental moment. That's taking place, and you know, to

1:23 Speaker 2: see the way God has been leading and directing, it's amazing,

1:27 Speaker 2: you know, Like personally, I do not know if I

1:31 Speaker 2: shared this with you, but you know, while that was

1:33 Speaker 2: happening in the United States, I was in my room

1:37 Speaker 2: in the middle of the night and I was having

1:40 Speaker 2: encounters with God at that moment. You know, it went

1:43 Speaker 2: on to you know, like past one thirty or two

1:46 Speaker 2: in the middle of the night in our time. But

1:49 Speaker 2: in spite of that, it was so powerful. So you

1:52 Speaker 2: can imagine even though this was happening in Arizona, it

1:56 Speaker 2: is happening all over the world. This is such a

1:58 Speaker 2: monumental thing. And that's the reason. The minute I knew

2:01 Speaker 2: that you attended in person, I thought, you know what,

2:04 Speaker 2: you should be the person I should check on. What

2:07 Speaker 2: was the thing that was happening in person? What was

2:09 Speaker 2: it feeling like to be there in person attending this.

2:14 Speaker 4: Memorial service.

2:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, actually, first thing, I'm let me just tell you

2:20 Speaker 3: that I'm very shocked by how much he's known, not

2:24 Speaker 3: just in America, because I only thought that he was

2:27 Speaker 3: known here in the States, but when I heard that

2:30 Speaker 3: even people from my country and in the Philippines, when

2:33 Speaker 3: I heard that they know about him too, and then

2:36 Speaker 3: in India and then London everywhere. I was like, wow,

2:40 Speaker 3: I never realized how big of an impact he's made.

2:44 Speaker 3: So it's amazing what even social media can do. It

2:48 Speaker 3: can be used for the bad, but also it could

2:50 Speaker 3: be used for the good, and thankfully Charlie Kirk has

2:54 Speaker 3: had that effect with the help of technology. But yeah,

2:59 Speaker 3: let me just go on and talk about my experience.

3:02 Speaker 2: And before you go, I just wanted to add that

3:03 Speaker 2: when you were saying the impact, right, I was reminded

3:06 Speaker 2: of how, you know, there were so many marches happening

3:10 Speaker 2: even in UK and uh, you know, and I was

3:13 Speaker 2: surprised that even in some of the states in India

3:16 Speaker 2: they had put up billboards for Charliicok.

3:18 Speaker 4: I didn't know the.

3:19 Speaker 2: Impact of Tarliicook as much as even now, Like you're

3:23 Speaker 2: surprised even I was surprised.

3:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, but it's great that his voice came

3:29 Speaker 3: all the way in, not just in America, as I said,

3:31 Speaker 3: but all over the world. It's amazing. Yes, so let

3:37 Speaker 3: me tell you. I mean, even as a local here

3:39 Speaker 3: in Arizona, I didn't think about really going in well

3:44 Speaker 3: maybe I did, but then I didn't want to involve

3:46 Speaker 3: my husband because I know he's he's more of a musician, okay,

3:52 Speaker 3: and he I would like him to spend the weekend

3:56 Speaker 3: resting because he's a busy man, you know. But when

4:01 Speaker 3: my friends or not friends, actually I did. I do

4:04 Speaker 3: have friends who came over here from California, but I

4:08 Speaker 3: have family who decided to come over. And I said,

4:12 Speaker 3: you know what, since they're coming, or since they're going,

4:15 Speaker 3: and I care a lot about what happened, then I

4:20 Speaker 3: might as well go. And you know, I remember that

4:23 Speaker 3: time I found out that he I found out actually

4:27 Speaker 3: that he he got shot, and I was already praying

4:33 Speaker 3: and I was thinking that he would get out of it.

4:36 Speaker 3: But when I found out that it happened that he

4:40 Speaker 3: passed away, you know, I was just at a random

4:43 Speaker 3: grocery store, and you know, it's just stopped for me,

4:46 Speaker 3: and you know, it's very it was a very somber moment.

4:49 Speaker 3: But you know, in as even Erica says Erica Kirk,

4:56 Speaker 3: Charlie's uh widow, she would say that Romans eight twenty eight,

5:03 Speaker 3: everything works together for good, for those who love him,

5:06 Speaker 3: for those who are called according to his purpose. And

5:08 Speaker 3: she said that, So it's you know, going back to

5:13 Speaker 3: this memorial, we saw that, you know, we saw that

5:16 Speaker 3: there were so many people who went, There were people

5:21 Speaker 3: who inside the inside that stadium, the one that I

5:27 Speaker 3: was in, there was seventy five thousand people that could

5:30 Speaker 3: fit in there. And then there was another stadium about

5:34 Speaker 3: a thirty minute walk away, and about twenty thousand people

5:38 Speaker 3: can fit in there, So that was the cutoff. So

5:41 Speaker 3: there was at least the number of Yeah, the number

5:46 Speaker 3: of people who were there to attend was one hundred thousand,

5:51 Speaker 3: and there were at least one hundred thousand more who

5:54 Speaker 3: weren't able to get in, So you know, yes, I'm

5:59 Speaker 3: sad about them not being able to experience being there

6:03 Speaker 3: in person. And that also includes some of my friends

6:05 Speaker 3: who came over. I didn't get to go with them.

6:08 Speaker 3: But just seeing the impact that Charlie Kirk made on

6:14 Speaker 3: not just America, but maybe there were people who came

6:17 Speaker 3: from all over the world and it was you know,

6:20 Speaker 3: it's very inspiring. But also you can see how much

6:24 Speaker 3: of a heart that people saw it translated through the screen,

6:30 Speaker 3: even if they saw him on social media. So it's

6:34 Speaker 3: such going back, it's such a privilege that I was

6:37 Speaker 3: able to go that. I was very thankful. I will

6:39 Speaker 3: tell you. At first, I remember when I got inside

6:42 Speaker 3: around eight am, I was complaining, okay, because I was like, huh,

6:49 Speaker 3: why are we in this side? I can't see the

6:52 Speaker 3: faces of the people who are who are who are talking?

6:57 Speaker 3: But thinking about it, at this point I changed my

7:00 Speaker 3: perspective and I realized, wait, I can see the people

7:06 Speaker 3: who are here, and I will say, yes, there are Christians,

7:11 Speaker 3: but also there are people who just appreciated Charlie Kirk

7:15 Speaker 3: for who he was. Whether they're I don't know whether

7:18 Speaker 3: they're let's say, on the political space, whether they're conservative,

7:22 Speaker 3: they're Democrat. When it comes to faith, even if they're

7:26 Speaker 3: they're not Christian or maybe there's Catholic or something else.

7:31 Speaker 3: They just appreciated him for standing up for free speech.

7:37 Speaker 3: And so it's not just the the it is the

7:40 Speaker 3: Christian side, and that's what he primarily wanted to be

7:43 Speaker 3: known for. But also he just real he just made

7:47 Speaker 3: it made a big impact on people's lives, especially being

7:52 Speaker 3: in America, our first amendment is free speech speech. Still, yeah,

7:57 Speaker 3: he was very big on that. He gave everyone the boys,

8:00 Speaker 3: even if he disagreed with them or they disagreed with

8:03 Speaker 3: each other.

8:04 Speaker 4: But also.

8:06 Speaker 3: I think one other other thing is that I was

8:09 Speaker 3: able to talk to people. Of course, we would be

8:12 Speaker 3: in line for food, or we would just be walking

8:16 Speaker 3: toward the stadium, and we would be able to talk

8:21 Speaker 3: to sage to that, Hey, where who are Where are

8:23 Speaker 3: you guys from? So I found people who are local.

8:27 Speaker 3: I found people from Alabama, from Tennessee, from Las Vegas,

8:33 Speaker 3: literally from all over the globe, or at least in

8:36 Speaker 3: this case, I met people from America, but I heard

8:39 Speaker 3: that there were people that came from other countries too.

8:42 Speaker 3: So what a privilege it was to be there?

8:45 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I mean. Like you said, it's such

8:50 Speaker 2: a monumental thing. Like you you you feel like, oh,

8:53 Speaker 2: I was just one among the crowd, but then you

8:56 Speaker 2: were at least able to be a part of history,

8:59 Speaker 2: you know, like somebody like me. I was just worshiping,

9:02 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my gosh, I wish I

9:04 Speaker 2: could be there. But you know, but in a sense,

9:07 Speaker 2: you know, that's that's an amazing privilege for you to

9:10 Speaker 2: you know, get together, you know, like beave with people.

9:14 Speaker 2: And and I and I also heard that, you know,

9:17 Speaker 2: people started off like way early in the morning, like

9:20 Speaker 2: five AM or something like that. What time did you

9:24 Speaker 2: get there?

9:26 Speaker 3: So for me, so I got there, Okay, I'll tell you.

9:30 Speaker 3: I'll answer the question, but I'll also tell you my

9:33 Speaker 3: special case. So my case was that I woke up

9:37 Speaker 3: around I think four fifteen AM, and then I went

9:43 Speaker 3: to where my family's hotel was, which is closer to

9:47 Speaker 3: the stadium. I got there around five thirty and then

9:52 Speaker 3: we got to the line for parking at around six,

9:59 Speaker 3: so we tried getting into the parking lot. We stayed.

10:02 Speaker 3: We stayed in line for about an hour, and we

10:05 Speaker 3: were My uncle was like, you know what, I don't

10:08 Speaker 3: think we're going to get in. I don't think we

10:10 Speaker 3: can get in on time. So what he did was

10:12 Speaker 3: he just went to the neighborhood close by, well not

10:17 Speaker 3: even close, about two miles away, and he found a

10:22 Speaker 3: parking spot there and we walked all the way for

10:23 Speaker 3: two miles. I mean, I like walking, so I'm fine

10:26 Speaker 3: with that. But I have an aunt who is in

10:30 Speaker 3: a wheelchair. And the thing about America, or at least

10:34 Speaker 3: where I live in the West Coast, I kept for

10:38 Speaker 3: every part of America. Maybe it's the same, but because

10:42 Speaker 3: she was in a wheelchair. They gave special special privilege

10:46 Speaker 3: to her along with the family, so we were able

10:50 Speaker 3: to get in. And I mean God used that for

10:55 Speaker 3: our family. But I mean I'm glad that that I

10:59 Speaker 3: was able to go there.

11:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so nice. I like to give messages out

11:05 Speaker 2: of random things.

11:06 Speaker 4: Guys.

11:06 Speaker 2: Sometimes you the things that you complain about are the

11:09 Speaker 2: things God might use to actually, you know, use you,

11:12 Speaker 2: or to bless you, or to take you to the places.

11:14 Speaker 4: That you need to go.

11:15 Speaker 2: So stop complaining and start being grateful for it. That

11:19 Speaker 2: is so nice. So when you were in person, all right,

11:23 Speaker 2: there's so many things. I mean I was looking at

11:25 Speaker 2: like you said, uh, there's a heerca speech when she

11:29 Speaker 2: said I forgive him, or even when I when you

11:32 Speaker 2: look at all of these people, because I have a

11:35 Speaker 2: huge heart for the United States, and I know most

11:37 Speaker 2: of these people, whether it's the journalists or you know,

11:41 Speaker 2: the politicians, most almost all of them.

11:43 Speaker 4: I knew them.

11:45 Speaker 2: And I was really surprised to see some of them,

11:48 Speaker 2: you know, like who were not that much in the

11:51 Speaker 2: things of God, or some people who are not I've

11:54 Speaker 2: never seen them express their Christian beliefs before to actually

11:58 Speaker 2: come out and quote scriptures and uh, you know, uh

12:02 Speaker 2: and and one of the things that really caught my

12:03 Speaker 2: attention was Don Junior's speech, you know, President Trump's Sons speech,

12:09 Speaker 2: when he gave this example of Stephen and how Jesus

12:13 Speaker 2: was standing on the right hand side.

12:15 Speaker 4: You know, that.

12:16 Speaker 2: Revelation was like, oh man, this is like a natural

12:18 Speaker 2: preaching material, you know what I mean. There's not something

12:22 Speaker 2: like see anybody can come and quote one Bible verse

12:25 Speaker 2: something like that. But for somebody to speak something like that,

12:28 Speaker 2: you know, there should be a great impact in you

12:31 Speaker 2: like you know this, So I'm really amazed, Like even

12:34 Speaker 2: if somebody disagrees with you know, you know, Charlie Kirk

12:39 Speaker 2: or anybody for whether it's on the political grounds or

12:41 Speaker 2: anybody anything for that matter. You know, shouldn't we look

12:44 Speaker 2: at a big picture like you know that you know,

12:47 Speaker 2: the name of Jesus is being lifted. You know, people

12:49 Speaker 2: all over the world are hearing the gospel, like you know,

12:52 Speaker 2: I'm seeing even people the news outlets which are like

12:56 Speaker 2: you know, actually Hindu based in India, they had no

12:59 Speaker 2: choice but to cover this, even though they covered it

13:02 Speaker 2: in a negative light, but the message still went that

13:05 Speaker 2: you know, she forgives him or the gospel being preached

13:08 Speaker 2: like she says it because of Jesus. So, you know,

13:11 Speaker 2: shouldn't we have that right perspective? Like what is your message?

13:15 Speaker 2: Like my heart really goes out, like I wish people

13:17 Speaker 2: would stop, you know, trying to you know, give more

13:21 Speaker 2: division or bring in more division.

13:22 Speaker 4: You know.

13:23 Speaker 2: See you're from the Reformed Church background. I'm from a

13:25 Speaker 2: mix of the Methodist and Charismatic movement. You know, I

13:30 Speaker 2: really want that kind of you know, a place where

13:33 Speaker 2: everybody of different backgrounds, everybody coming together to glorify Jesus.

13:37 Speaker 2: You know, we want that, Like how do you think

13:40 Speaker 2: you know we can have that kind of a perspective

13:43 Speaker 2: instead of being divisive as a society.

13:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I will say that if I'm not mistaken,

13:51 Speaker 3: I know that denominations were not made by God. They

13:54 Speaker 3: were actually made by man, and so I used to

13:57 Speaker 3: think it was just preferences. Oh, you know, there are

14:01 Speaker 3: some people who don't want to collap there are some

14:03 Speaker 3: people who want to like really tumble and dance things

14:07 Speaker 3: like those. But there were these minor things that people

14:10 Speaker 3: didn't agree with, and sometimes it has become a reason

14:15 Speaker 3: for people to divide. But you know, at least in

14:19 Speaker 3: the Christian denomination or I won't say Christian, in the

14:22 Speaker 3: Christian faith or in Christianity. What is important is that

14:27 Speaker 3: we are one in the big things. And then like

14:32 Speaker 3: knowing that Jesus is God, there that the Trinity, that

14:36 Speaker 3: there is the Trinity, and there are one. If we

14:40 Speaker 3: believe that Jesus died on the cross, but he rose

14:45 Speaker 3: again after three days and he'd defeated death, those are

14:49 Speaker 3: the major things. If we can agree on that, then

14:54 Speaker 3: that is what's important. We we are on the same team,

14:58 Speaker 3: I will say that. And if we are, if there

15:02 Speaker 3: are little things that we don't agree with, that's not

15:04 Speaker 3: something that is as we say, it's not selvific. If

15:07 Speaker 3: we agree on those big things that I mentioned earlier,

15:10 Speaker 3: that's what matters. And as we are at the same team,

15:14 Speaker 3: may we have that same mission of yes, following or

15:19 Speaker 3: doing the great commission, which is to as I think

15:22 Speaker 3: it's in Matthew twenty eight Verses nineteen and twenty or

15:26 Speaker 3: it says, go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing

15:30 Speaker 3: them in the name of the Father and the Son

15:32 Speaker 3: and the Holy Spirit. So that is God's God's great commission.

15:38 Speaker 3: To us, and as my pastor said, it's not the

15:42 Speaker 3: great omission, it's the great mission, and that's something that

15:47 Speaker 3: we definitely have to do. Charlie Kirk was such a

15:49 Speaker 3: great example for someone who does what the great commission

15:55 Speaker 3: is to go out there purposely, go out to especially

15:59 Speaker 3: the young adult and because he's on of his social

16:02 Speaker 3: media presence, it's affected even young adults like older adults.

16:08 Speaker 3: So you know, he just he did it and maybe

16:12 Speaker 3: be inspired by that.

16:14 Speaker 2: That's so good, that's so good. So this is when

16:19 Speaker 2: he was assassinated. This happened in the middle of the

16:21 Speaker 2: night here in India, and uh but still I got

16:26 Speaker 2: a vision exactly at that time of him coming over

16:30 Speaker 2: and saying, I fought a good fight of faith. Now

16:33 Speaker 2: you go do the same without fear. At the same

16:35 Speaker 2: time it happened in the middle of the night, I

16:37 Speaker 2: take my phone out and I checked that that was

16:39 Speaker 2: exactly when he had passed out.

16:40 Speaker 4: Passed away.

16:42 Speaker 2: So I'm like, you know, you know, we're not idealizing

16:46 Speaker 2: Charlie Cook. But the truth is the message is that

16:49 Speaker 2: you know he you know, fought the good fight of faith,

16:52 Speaker 2: you know, and that you won't believe ever since then

16:55 Speaker 2: after this encounter, I was like, I was really shocked because,

16:58 Speaker 2: like I said, you know, like you don't expect something

17:01 Speaker 2: like that at that point of time. I mean, and uh,

17:05 Speaker 2: that that is when I was like, you know, like

17:07 Speaker 2: you said, you know, we have to be more bold

17:09 Speaker 2: and more woker, Like you know, I'm not here to

17:12 Speaker 2: be another Charlie Kirk or you're not here to be

17:14 Speaker 2: another child. I mean in a figurative sense. Yeah, we're

17:17 Speaker 2: raising Charliekirk's that's that's a statement people are making. But

17:20 Speaker 2: we're not here to copy him. Like you know, he

17:22 Speaker 2: was good in debates. I'm very bad at debates, you know,

17:27 Speaker 2: but I'm good at what I'm called to do.

17:29 Speaker 4: You know, like my gift is to speak.

17:32 Speaker 2: I'm also known as one of my unique things is

17:34 Speaker 2: called as the Scooby Doo pastor. Okay, I always I'm

17:37 Speaker 2: actually a record holder for Scooby Doo, and I use

17:40 Speaker 2: Scooby Doo as one of my tools in ministry. Wow,

17:43 Speaker 2: it's a it's a very unique thing. And now you know,

17:46 Speaker 2: ever since this, I've been even more vocal or bold

17:49 Speaker 2: in using that tool. Now Charliekirk used politics. Now I

17:52 Speaker 2: have a heart for politics, but not to become a

17:55 Speaker 2: politician assage. But I have a heart for Scooby Doo,

17:59 Speaker 2: and so I'm using that tool. Like how so I

18:02 Speaker 2: always tell people, you know, like whatever means or tools

18:06 Speaker 2: God has placed on the inside of you, like what

18:08 Speaker 2: gifts he has given you, what strengths he has given you,

18:10 Speaker 2: what what burden.

18:12 Speaker 4: He has given you, go for it?

18:13 Speaker 2: You know. You know, we met through the Christian Utibus

18:17 Speaker 2: group and I met someone else. I'm trying to connect

18:20 Speaker 2: with this person. I think you might know this, Like

18:23 Speaker 2: I came to know that she started a YouTube channel

18:26 Speaker 2: after this Charliekirks thing. I know a lot of people

18:29 Speaker 2: started this, and I was like, I really want you

18:33 Speaker 2: know more of such things. We're not, like I said,

18:35 Speaker 2: we're not adalyzing him or you know, you're not glorifying

18:37 Speaker 2: like that's not the case.

18:39 Speaker 4: But we are also not.

18:41 Speaker 2: Being blindsided by the by what God is doing right now.

18:45 Speaker 3: You know.

18:46 Speaker 2: Now in a sense sometimes you know somebody who was saying, John,

18:49 Speaker 2: are you making these videos, especially talking about the vision

18:52 Speaker 2: and encounters? You know, are you doing this to capitalize

18:56 Speaker 2: on Charlie Kirk's dead? I said, See, I made it

18:59 Speaker 2: very clear I'm not doing this trying to build my

19:02 Speaker 2: empire on him, you know what I mean. But at

19:05 Speaker 2: the same time I was when I was praying about this,

19:08 Speaker 2: you know. I don't know if you saw Torrent well,

19:09 Speaker 2: So he made a video where he said he was

19:12 Speaker 2: about to release a song very much in line with

19:15 Speaker 2: what's happening, and he said people might ask, am I

19:18 Speaker 2: capitalizing on this? In one sense no, but in another

19:21 Speaker 2: sense yes, because now is the need when people are

19:24 Speaker 2: going to be receptive to this message. And so that's

19:28 Speaker 2: that's the heart behind me doing what I'm doing right, Like,

19:31 Speaker 2: you know, so we need to like instead of you know,

19:35 Speaker 2: have they having all of these senses like what if

19:37 Speaker 2: I'm capitalizing? What if you know, what if people think

19:40 Speaker 2: like what is your message? Like you are dealing with

19:43 Speaker 2: young people and all of that. You know, how what

19:47 Speaker 2: what kind of challenges do you face, like or questions

19:50 Speaker 2: do you face because you're in the young adult ministry

19:53 Speaker 2: like on the ground, what what is the mood of

19:55 Speaker 2: the people or what what what what do they feel?

19:58 Speaker 2: Or how are you handling those challenging questions like if

20:02 Speaker 2: someone asks like why did God allow this happen? Or

20:04 Speaker 2: you know, how are you dealing with that and still

20:07 Speaker 2: telling them be bold and you know, fight the good

20:10 Speaker 2: fight of faith.

20:12 Speaker 3: So I want to go back to what you mentioned

20:14 Speaker 3: about like idolizing Charlie Kirk, and I do believe that

20:19 Speaker 3: we hadn't. There's an encounter like that in the Bible

20:23 Speaker 3: where Paul was saying, or I think he was telling

20:27 Speaker 3: a congregation, don't look at me like I'm a god.

20:32 Speaker 3: It's more like you can follow me because I follow Christ.

20:36 Speaker 3: And if anything, if Charlie were still around, I think

20:40 Speaker 3: that he would he might say the same thing. You

20:42 Speaker 3: might be following me, but not because of me, but

20:46 Speaker 3: because I follow Christ. And so he still brings it

20:50 Speaker 3: back to Christ himself, and may that be the same

20:53 Speaker 3: for us. We're not I mean going back, I don't.

20:55 Speaker 3: It's I think because many people around the world are

21:00 Speaker 3: affected by what happened, this is the time for us

21:04 Speaker 3: to minister, and it's I don't want to think about

21:08 Speaker 3: it that way. You know that we're capitalizing on someone's passing.

21:13 Speaker 3: But then it's what people right now are hungry, and

21:18 Speaker 3: they are there are people who are have they've been

21:21 Speaker 3: softened to hear the gospel. You know, they saw the

21:25 Speaker 3: difference plainly in front of them, the difference between good

21:29 Speaker 3: and evil. And they know that there is good and evil.

21:34 Speaker 3: So where does good come from? Where does evil come from?

21:39 Speaker 3: I mean, that's where you know that God exists. Because

21:44 Speaker 3: if there is not a moral standard that is followed,

21:48 Speaker 3: you wouldn't be able, you know, where would the thing is?

21:51 Speaker 3: You wouldn't be able to live. There would be no

21:53 Speaker 3: purpose of living if there was no standard of what's

21:56 Speaker 3: good and what's evil. And so another thing I do

22:00 Speaker 3: also learn from Ray comfort he's a pretty good, good

22:05 Speaker 3: one when he also goes out to young adults. He

22:07 Speaker 3: goes to schools as well, and he focuses on sharing

22:11 Speaker 3: the gospel to them, to the young adults. So with that,

22:15 Speaker 3: one thing he says is that one way he can

22:19 Speaker 3: prove that God exists is just looking around you. Look

22:23 Speaker 3: at that building. That building has a builder. Look at

22:28 Speaker 3: this piece of art. That piece of art did not

22:33 Speaker 3: just come out of nowhere. There was an artist that

22:37 Speaker 3: made that this creation. It won't happen. It won't happen

22:43 Speaker 3: if there was no creator. Yeah, and so you know,

22:47 Speaker 3: we always that it makes so much sense, whether you

22:50 Speaker 3: use the Bible or whether you use your common sense

22:54 Speaker 3: it's such a simple way to explain that without a creator,

22:59 Speaker 3: there would be no creation, and that creator is God. Yeah,

23:03 Speaker 3: and so in terms of well, I haven't been talking

23:07 Speaker 3: to a lot of young adults, but in terms of

23:10 Speaker 3: at least the people around me, you know, well, I'll

23:14 Speaker 3: share more of my my husband's experience. And yes, my husband,

23:22 Speaker 3: he's usually not very outspoken. He speaks, of course, he

23:27 Speaker 3: talks to people who are who he knows, but when

23:29 Speaker 3: it comes to like quote quote unquote controversial issue, he's

23:34 Speaker 3: he's not very talkative about that yet, he's not very vocal.

23:38 Speaker 3: But this time when he actually heard that someone was saying, well,

23:42 Speaker 3: I mean it was it was probably Charlie Kirk's fault

23:48 Speaker 3: why it happened, and my husband couldn't help it, like

23:51 Speaker 3: there's a fine line between good and evil, and he

23:54 Speaker 3: can't help but speak up. You know, he had to

23:57 Speaker 3: speak up. He said, no one should be you know,

24:01 Speaker 3: should lose their lives just because of sharing their having

24:04 Speaker 3: different yes, sharing their ideas, having a difference in opinion.

24:07 Speaker 3: And so he's become a little more vocal on that,

24:10 Speaker 3: but also just in life, you know, he's become a

24:14 Speaker 3: little more outspoken in a sense where someone is discouraged

24:20 Speaker 3: about something or some one of his co workers is complaining,

24:25 Speaker 3: and what my husband would say is to have a

24:28 Speaker 3: mind shift in perspective. You know, she would say something like,

24:34 Speaker 3: let's say one of his work work his colleagues was

24:38 Speaker 3: complaining about another colleague, and then my husband, when it

24:43 Speaker 3: would say, you know what I mean, you can be

24:46 Speaker 3: thankful actually that she's actually doing her job pretty well.

24:49 Speaker 3: She has, she actually cares about getting work done. And

24:53 Speaker 3: then his colleague said, I think you're right. Yeah, so

24:58 Speaker 3: he's not just become more vocal about his opinions, but

25:01 Speaker 3: also in shifting people's mindsets. So that's one on his Yeah, definitely,

25:08 Speaker 3: there's also that's one side. But also in terms of

25:11 Speaker 3: the atmosphere, I think that people have become a little more.

25:19 Speaker 3: People have seen people more like humans. You know, with

25:22 Speaker 3: the social media age, people tend to look at people,

25:27 Speaker 3: especially on other people rather on social media as you know,

25:32 Speaker 3: they're dehumanized because they're on there in front of the screen.

25:35 Speaker 3: And if people have when when people have different opinions,

25:40 Speaker 3: they tend to be seen as I don't know, some

25:42 Speaker 3: sort of object or just someone who doesn't exist. For

25:45 Speaker 3: I don't know someone who doesn't have life. But that's

25:48 Speaker 3: not true. You know, especially here in America, we come

25:52 Speaker 3: from a lot of different backgrounds, We have from different cultures.

25:56 Speaker 3: But the thing that makes America beautiful is that we

26:00 Speaker 3: are able to come in this country and hopefully adapting

26:06 Speaker 3: the values that our forefathers had, and with that adapting,

26:13 Speaker 3: then we can be immunity. And so I'm hoping that

26:19 Speaker 3: with this that happened, yes, that a revival would come

26:23 Speaker 3: in a spiritual revival, but also I hope that more

26:27 Speaker 3: people would continue to be hungry for the Gospel, and

26:32 Speaker 3: aside from that, churches would be more open to talking

26:37 Speaker 3: about things related to culture. So with regard to that,

26:40 Speaker 3: there is a mix. I will tell you there are

26:43 Speaker 3: churches that are very receptive of newcomers and they are

26:48 Speaker 3: there to disciple, to comfort those who are in need,

26:52 Speaker 3: who are hurting. But there's also this side of there

26:56 Speaker 3: are also people in the church, or rather there are

26:59 Speaker 3: some churches that don't want anything want anything to do

27:02 Speaker 3: with the politics side of things. Yes, so there is that,

27:07 Speaker 3: but you know, there are also people who are calling

27:12 Speaker 3: out these churches where I mean there are people in

27:16 Speaker 3: the Bible there was Daniel, there was Esther, there was Yeah, Jeremiah.

27:21 Speaker 3: These people they were advisors, there were prophets who would

27:25 Speaker 3: rebuke kings, right people in power, and so they were

27:31 Speaker 3: involved in politics. So if if Christians don't get involved

27:37 Speaker 3: in the political world of the country, then what's going

27:41 Speaker 3: to happen to it? Non godly values will become law

27:46 Speaker 3: and we're going to lose the country in terms of

27:50 Speaker 3: its values. And how amazing. I mean, I'm American, so

27:53 Speaker 3: I am so I love this country. So yeah, it

27:57 Speaker 3: makes I'm I'm talking about now, I'm talking about how

28:02 Speaker 3: we can make a difference, right and as a church.

28:05 Speaker 3: But yes, I'm it's very important that the church gets involved.

28:11 Speaker 2: That's so true, because that's that's been my heart as well. Right,

28:15 Speaker 2: you know, sometimes I see that, you know, like people

28:18 Speaker 2: want to be like, oh, you know what, I'm a Christian.

28:20 Speaker 2: I go to church, I get my checklist done, I

28:22 Speaker 2: read the Bible, I pray.

28:24 Speaker 4: All that is great.

28:25 Speaker 2: I'm not denying that. But the point is God has

28:27 Speaker 2: called us to be the light in the darkness. God

28:29 Speaker 2: has called us to you know, it'll be the salt

28:32 Speaker 2: of the earth. God has called us to, you know,

28:34 Speaker 2: like preach the gospel, you know, and preach to gospel

28:38 Speaker 2: is not going to happen, like when you're expecting somebody

28:40 Speaker 2: to come to your church. Sometimes No, I think somebody

28:43 Speaker 2: said this about Charlie Kirk itself in the in the

28:45 Speaker 2: in the conference that you know he his heart was

28:48 Speaker 2: like using politics as the tool to talk about Jesus,

28:53 Speaker 2: like bringing them to the source that is Jesus. Something

28:56 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm paraphrasing what they meant, but that's what

28:59 Speaker 2: they meant in a sense, Like how like I said

29:02 Speaker 2: about I use Scooby Doo or I use comedy or

29:04 Speaker 2: I use politics. You know, we as believers should be

29:08 Speaker 2: open to using all means, you know, like I think

29:11 Speaker 2: the apossible said this, right, like by all means, I'm

29:14 Speaker 2: glad as long as Jesus is preached, whether the person

29:17 Speaker 2: who's preaching how they're preaching it may not be as

29:21 Speaker 2: okay with you, right, you know, like in the sense

29:23 Speaker 2: someone may some people criticize me, why he bring Scooby

29:26 Speaker 2: Doo into the sea, But you know, like the same

29:29 Speaker 2: way people could have criticized Chalka, why is he bringing

29:31 Speaker 2: politics into the church. But we have to make I

29:36 Speaker 2: think there's something called the Seven Mountains of Influence. I

29:39 Speaker 2: don't know if you've heard of it. It's basically that

29:42 Speaker 2: we should not just be pillars of influence in you know,

29:46 Speaker 2: like just being in the church, but rather go out

29:49 Speaker 2: into the political space, the art space, the you know,

29:53 Speaker 2: the entertainment industry space, you know. For me, I've even

29:57 Speaker 2: interviewed Hollywood actresses two times on my podcast you know

30:01 Speaker 2: who also have Christians. Even about two weeks ago, I

30:04 Speaker 2: interviewed an actress I'm here to release that out. She's

30:08 Speaker 2: an Emmy Award winning actress who's also a believer. Now

30:11 Speaker 2: I can't go and keep checking their exact specifics of

30:14 Speaker 2: theology before coming the interviewing them. But my heart is

30:18 Speaker 2: if she's a believer and she's sharing the gospel in

30:22 Speaker 2: you know, Hollywood, that's what I want. You know, we

30:25 Speaker 2: keep complaining that politics is bad. We ken complaining Hollywood

30:29 Speaker 2: is bad. But if we don't support or pray and

30:32 Speaker 2: walk towards being the light in Hollywood or in you know,

30:37 Speaker 2: the political spectrum, the problem is with us. So that's

30:42 Speaker 2: the reason I really want to say, like you said,

30:44 Speaker 2: you know, we at church should be involved within our

30:48 Speaker 2: own capacity. Now I can't go and canvas, you know,

30:52 Speaker 2: on the street. If I can't do that because of

30:54 Speaker 2: my work and schedule, I can do with the platform

30:56 Speaker 2: that I have. So that is the way we need

30:59 Speaker 2: to utilize, whatever it takes. I looking at the time,

31:03 Speaker 2: I just want to ask you two more quick questions.

31:05 Speaker 2: One is what was the most noteworthy moment that you

31:08 Speaker 2: had in this rally? I mean the memorial service? Memorial service?

31:13 Speaker 2: What was.

31:15 Speaker 3: So about that? Definitely was Erica Kirk's speech. Yeah. So

31:23 Speaker 3: one thing that I've always thought about whenever I think

31:26 Speaker 3: about Erica and Charlie's passing is her kids and seeing

31:34 Speaker 3: despite what she's going through, seeing how strong she is,

31:40 Speaker 3: but also being able to show her her soft side,

31:44 Speaker 3: being vulnerable. I did feel like we were family. I

31:50 Speaker 3: felt like we were family. She didn't just do announcements

31:55 Speaker 3: when she did her speech, but she mentioned how her

31:59 Speaker 3: marriage with Charlie worked. She mentioned what it meant to

32:03 Speaker 3: be a man, what it meant to be a woman,

32:05 Speaker 3: a godly man and a godly woman, and how their

32:10 Speaker 3: story was a blessing to themselves. And she did not

32:15 Speaker 3: cower over saying things that were godly, even if she

32:20 Speaker 3: was talking to people all over the world who had

32:23 Speaker 3: different backgrounds. She just shared what was in her heart,

32:27 Speaker 3: and what was in her heart was the principles that

32:31 Speaker 3: would lead people to God, because definitely a life with

32:37 Speaker 3: Christ is what will make a good outcome out of

32:41 Speaker 3: your life. That He is the supreme meaning of life,

32:46 Speaker 3: or He is the supreme purpose of life. To worship God,

32:49 Speaker 3: and in everything and every aspect in her life, she prayed,

32:55 Speaker 3: she consulted the Lord, and she mentioned that in her speech.

33:00 Speaker 3: And it's not just something that she just says and preaches,

33:04 Speaker 3: quote unquote, but it's something that she practiced, and she

33:07 Speaker 3: just wanted to show not just in word, but even

33:15 Speaker 3: what she did, which is to forgive her husband's killer.

33:19 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I have my own video on this,

33:23 Speaker 3: but I did say that one thing I wished or

33:27 Speaker 3: I hope for her, is that she would forgive the person,

33:32 Speaker 3: the young man who killed her husband, because if she

33:36 Speaker 3: would run TPUSA, having grudges, having anger, having hatred in

33:43 Speaker 3: her heart, it might not glorify the Lord as and

33:47 Speaker 3: it might not grow as she desires. But knowing that

33:53 Speaker 3: she let go and she gave it to the Lord

33:58 Speaker 3: doesn't mean that she is I mean personally she has forgiven.

34:02 Speaker 3: But then you know he will the young man will

34:05 Speaker 3: still you know, the justice system will work yeah in him.

34:11 Speaker 3: So at least personally, she has no baggage, no burden

34:16 Speaker 3: in her heart toward this man. I'm sure if she

34:19 Speaker 3: would actually see that person face to face, the man

34:22 Speaker 3: face to face, she would actually share the Gospel to him.

34:25 Speaker 3: And I'm confident of that. But that really made a

34:30 Speaker 3: difference in my in that in my attendance of the event,

34:36 Speaker 3: that was the moment where I really balked. I cried

34:40 Speaker 3: because I wanted to hear that, and it made me closure.

34:46 Speaker 2: That's so good. This morning, I was seeing the update

34:50 Speaker 2: that somebody else I don't know who it was. I

34:53 Speaker 2: didn't get the heading. He said he struggled to, you know,

34:58 Speaker 2: forgive his eyes or her I think it's a his

35:02 Speaker 2: his father's killer for sixty years, but seeing what Herika

35:06 Speaker 2: did in ten days, he has decided to forgive. So

35:11 Speaker 2: I was like just imagining even the day she did that,

35:15 Speaker 2: I posted that, you know, how long will you? I mean,

35:18 Speaker 2: if she can forgive someone in ten days, how long

35:21 Speaker 2: are you in hold on to grudges? You know? At

35:23 Speaker 2: the same time, I'm seeing so many. I mean, like

35:26 Speaker 2: you said, we can't speak to the heart of a person.

35:29 Speaker 2: We don't know that. Only God can judge, but we

35:31 Speaker 2: can look at the fruit of it. I think that,

35:33 Speaker 2: you know, when we look at the fruit of this,

35:35 Speaker 2: it was like one of them was saying that, you know,

35:37 Speaker 2: it's like bringing, you know, bringing the Holy Spirit to

35:42 Speaker 2: trump rally. It was like, you know, it was like

35:45 Speaker 2: the worship was so powerful, the anointing, and everybody nobody

35:50 Speaker 2: spoke ill of you know, the person, like even nobody

35:54 Speaker 2: spoke ill of even the you know, the assassin. You know,

35:58 Speaker 2: everyone was speaking, you know, like you know, because everyone's

36:01 Speaker 2: heart is that even that assassin should come to know

36:04 Speaker 2: the Lord Jesus. And that fruit is seen all over,

36:07 Speaker 2: like seeing so many people going to church for the

36:10 Speaker 2: very first time, reading the Bible for the very first time,

36:12 Speaker 2: or in a long time, in twenty years, forty five years.

36:15 Speaker 2: So when I look at all of that, I think

36:17 Speaker 2: the fruit speaks in itself, and it's amazing. Last question

36:21 Speaker 2: is you said you had a chance where you saw

36:25 Speaker 2: Charlico cup close. Can you talk about that when he

36:30 Speaker 2: spoke at an event where you were a part of.

36:33 Speaker 3: Yes, So I was actually able to go to a

36:38 Speaker 3: church in Calvary Chapel. Its Calvary Chapel is a pretty

36:44 Speaker 3: big church in California, and he was ministering in one

36:51 Speaker 3: of the branches of that church, which is in Golden Springs,

36:55 Speaker 3: which is in Summer in Orange County, close to Disneyland.

36:57 Speaker 3: That's what I always say. But yeah, so I did

37:01 Speaker 3: not get to meet him in person, like I mean, sorry,

37:05 Speaker 3: not in person, but rather I did not get to

37:07 Speaker 3: speak to him or to shake his hand. But I

37:09 Speaker 3: did get to be in the congregation where he spoke.

37:14 Speaker 3: The pastor gave him the time that he as if

37:18 Speaker 3: he were the pastor for that day. He's spoken all

37:21 Speaker 3: three services, and I went to one where he was

37:26 Speaker 3: big on giving defense to have an actual Bible, like

37:33 Speaker 3: a handheld one, not your phone. So he was arguing

37:37 Speaker 3: having an actual Bible. And also there were many issues

37:42 Speaker 3: that he mentioned. But it is that principle of bringing

37:46 Speaker 3: faith in politics. And I mean, there's this quote where

37:53 Speaker 3: we say separation of church and state state, but that

37:56 Speaker 3: is out of context. I'll say that, but I don't.

38:00 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna talk too much about it unless you

38:02 Speaker 3: want me to. But then at least in our lives

38:06 Speaker 3: as Christians. He mentioned that we have to make it

38:11 Speaker 3: we are, yes, going back to what you said, we

38:13 Speaker 3: are salt in light of the world, and we have

38:16 Speaker 3: to make a difference in every aspect of life, including politics.

38:20 Speaker 3: So that's he. I encountered him more like a teacher

38:25 Speaker 3: or a preacher rather than up close like we were friends.

38:30 Speaker 3: But I will say that the reason why I came

38:33 Speaker 3: to know him like as a person is through my

38:38 Speaker 3: uncle whose church was also hosting him. Okay, yes, so

38:45 Speaker 3: ever since then, whenever I would like to get a

38:49 Speaker 3: Christian perspective of what the political events that are happening,

38:54 Speaker 3: or big events that are happening, even his opinions on

38:58 Speaker 3: the NFL things like those, I would like to hear

39:01 Speaker 3: his perspective. And yes, he has strong ideas, doesn't It

39:05 Speaker 3: doesn't mean that I that I that I agree with

39:09 Speaker 3: everything that he says, or that I would just believe

39:12 Speaker 3: everything he says. But then he shares his opinions and

39:15 Speaker 3: then it helps me to uh form my own yes,

39:20 Speaker 3: to process it and to form my own opinions. So again,

39:23 Speaker 3: it's not it's not like he Oh, it's not like

39:28 Speaker 3: he is. What do you call this the word indoctrinating

39:32 Speaker 3: or he's not imposing his beliefs on me. It's just

39:35 Speaker 3: that he's sharing his opinions. And then you know, at

39:38 Speaker 3: the end of the day, I have my own ideas.

39:41 Speaker 3: Another thing is, since we're talking about my encounters with him,

39:46 Speaker 3: and again it's not personally like in front, face to face.

39:50 Speaker 3: But then another event where I followed him was during

39:57 Speaker 3: the election night. You know. Yeah, so during the election

40:02 Speaker 3: night he was one of my sources and I just

40:06 Speaker 3: knew that he was a big part of that of campaigning,

40:13 Speaker 3: helping out young adults, especially to open their eyes to

40:18 Speaker 3: different issues that they care about. And with that, when

40:22 Speaker 3: he when the I'll just say it, when Trump won,

40:26 Speaker 3: I saw his reaction, him crying, and all he can

40:32 Speaker 3: say is, I am humbled. It's all by the grace

40:34 Speaker 3: of God. He did not claim it as his own

40:38 Speaker 3: doing why he won, or why Trump won, but he

40:42 Speaker 3: claimed said it's by God's grace or you know, God's

40:46 Speaker 3: mercy on the country.

40:49 Speaker 4: That's so good.

40:50 Speaker 2: And you said that he was very tall or something.

40:55 Speaker 3: So the thing is that on TV or let's say,

40:58 Speaker 3: on your social media, you would see that he is

41:02 Speaker 3: he's sitting down, you wouldn't really see him standing up

41:05 Speaker 3: very much. But when I saw him speak like as

41:08 Speaker 3: if he's a pastor, it's like he is so much

41:11 Speaker 3: taller in person. So that's the big I guess, the

41:16 Speaker 3: closest encounter that I've had of him in person but

41:20 Speaker 3: never close to each other, like face to face, like meeting, Yes,

41:25 Speaker 3: meeting him, but yes, definitely he seems taller than what

41:30 Speaker 3: I would think, especially when I see him on social media.

41:34 Speaker 2: That's so nice, that's so nice. I know we covered

41:37 Speaker 2: a lot of things. I mean, just do smarized the

41:39 Speaker 2: in part what he was sharing. I do know about

41:42 Speaker 2: the you know, separation of church and state is basically

41:45 Speaker 2: about making sure that state does not be involved in

41:49 Speaker 2: the churches. But people have made it the other way. Now, okay,

41:53 Speaker 2: you know, but so and he spoke about all of

41:57 Speaker 2: these things, and you know, like even the election when

42:00 Speaker 2: you sheard to be honest, like even for me, it

42:04 Speaker 2: was the middle of the night for me, right, but

42:07 Speaker 2: the whole night I was led to pray and intercede

42:10 Speaker 2: and I was raising indecessors to pray.

42:14 Speaker 4: So when he won.

42:15 Speaker 2: The election, I was at work and I started crying,

42:19 Speaker 2: and my colleagues thought that I'm crying because he lost.

42:25 Speaker 2: But you know, so I saw Charlie's reaction. He was

42:28 Speaker 2: also in mood because he played a major role. Even

42:32 Speaker 2: in Arizona being a swing state, he was able to

42:35 Speaker 2: win it, and so grateful, you know, like to see

42:38 Speaker 2: what the lawd is doing in the US and because

42:42 Speaker 2: and around the world, you know, like what happens there.

42:46 Speaker 2: Like you know, typically even in entertainment in CDC this,

42:49 Speaker 2: you know, if a movie does really well in Olliwood,

42:52 Speaker 2: it does really well everywhere in the world. So if

42:55 Speaker 2: Revival starts in US, it will start all over the world.

42:59 Speaker 2: And I'm seeing that. So we'll just pray that God

43:02 Speaker 2: will continue to do that. Can you just close with

43:04 Speaker 2: a word of prayer for the family, you know, Erica

43:09 Speaker 2: and the children, because I really feel that compassionate hard

43:13 Speaker 2: for them. Pray for them, and also leave with a

43:16 Speaker 2: word of prayer for.

43:18 Speaker 4: You know, like Revival. I'll pray for Revival.

43:21 Speaker 3: You pray for this, Okay, I'll pray for the family. Yes, yeah, okay,

43:27 Speaker 3: so let's pray. Heavenly Father, we thank you again and

43:31 Speaker 3: again for this opportunity that we got to speak. Thank

43:35 Speaker 3: you Lord for just technology. Thank you that we could

43:39 Speaker 3: use it for your glory. And right now, Lord, we

43:43 Speaker 3: offer this even this podcast. Lord, thank you Lord for

43:47 Speaker 3: letting this happen, for giving the heart to John to

43:50 Speaker 3: start this podcast. And I know Lord that there if

43:54 Speaker 3: it's not just one person, it's two people or maybe

43:58 Speaker 3: a thousand people who are hearing the messages that you

44:01 Speaker 3: are imparting onto him. And Lord, may you continue to

44:05 Speaker 3: use John through this podcast. And Lord, right now we

44:09 Speaker 3: just pray for First of all, we pray for Erica.

44:13 Speaker 3: Thank you, Lord for how strong that you have made

44:15 Speaker 3: her become, that she is becoming more and more dependent

44:18 Speaker 3: on you during this season. But we know Lord that

44:22 Speaker 3: on the human side of things, she is hurt. There's

44:25 Speaker 3: some hurt, and there's a lot that she has to

44:29 Speaker 3: carry even just being a CEO of TPUSA, the new one,

44:33 Speaker 3: and there's going there's going to be so many adjustments

44:36 Speaker 3: that have to be made. I pray Lord that you

44:38 Speaker 3: were you would give her wisdom. Lord. We know God

44:41 Speaker 3: that yes, there are many things that we feel like

44:45 Speaker 3: we can't handle, but Lord, you will carry us through.

44:49 Speaker 3: We know God that you are going to carry through Erica.

44:53 Speaker 3: We know that you are going to use her as

44:56 Speaker 3: not just the boss of TPUSA, but you are going

45:00 Speaker 3: to use her as a good mother to her, to

45:05 Speaker 3: her daughter and son. Lord. I pray the Lord that

45:09 Speaker 3: you would continue to inspire her. I mean, you can

45:11 Speaker 3: meet she continued to be dependent on your Lord in

45:15 Speaker 3: every aspect of her life. Right now, Lord, I pray

45:19 Speaker 3: that she would always seek mentorship and wisdom from people

45:22 Speaker 3: who are older than her, that she would always be

45:25 Speaker 3: accountable to someone, that she would have people that will

45:29 Speaker 3: just envelop her with would love, and I pray the

45:34 Speaker 3: Lord that there would always be people that would care

45:36 Speaker 3: for her. I know a Lord that based on what

45:40 Speaker 3: she's been sharing and the people who've been in the

45:42 Speaker 3: memorial service, there are going to be people who will

45:46 Speaker 3: help them out. And I pray that you would continue

45:48 Speaker 3: to give them the strength to be there for her,

45:51 Speaker 3: not just as a friend, but as a sister in Christ.

45:55 Speaker 3: I pray the Lord that you would just continue to

45:57 Speaker 3: be with everyone who is affected, a specially the tp USA,

46:01 Speaker 3: the staff, and just people who have become family to them.

46:05 Speaker 3: I pray that they you would all discomfort them, and

46:08 Speaker 3: even for all of us, Lord, who are affected, who've

46:11 Speaker 3: shed a tear or even cried, who who have whose

46:15 Speaker 3: whose lives that Charlie Kirk affected. I pray that you

46:18 Speaker 3: would you would be with all of us, Lord, that

46:21 Speaker 3: we would we would be able to uh to find

46:24 Speaker 3: joy even in the suffering, even in the tribulation. Lord,

46:29 Speaker 3: I just know God that You're going to do something great.

46:32 Speaker 3: And even if we mourn, even if we're sad, but

46:35 Speaker 3: we can be joyful because we know, Lord, where Charlie is,

46:39 Speaker 3: where his soul is, and he's not in that body anymore.

46:42 Speaker 3: He is there with you and he's enjoying just having

46:46 Speaker 3: conversations with you or being with other people uh in

46:51 Speaker 3: the faith that are up there too. I pray o Lord,

46:54 Speaker 3: that Erica would continue to be comforted by that. So

46:58 Speaker 3: thank you, Lord for all of that.

47:00 Speaker 4: In Jesus name. Amen.

47:02 Speaker 2: Amen, I'm just going to pray for the revival.

47:06 Speaker 4: Lord.

47:07 Speaker 2: We pray in the name of Jesus. Lord, we thank

47:09 Speaker 2: you for what you're doing, and we continue to believe,

47:12 Speaker 2: decree and declare, let revival flow in the name of Jesus.

47:16 Speaker 2: Let this be the dawn of something new.

47:19 Speaker 4: Lord.

47:19 Speaker 2: We believe as the scripture says that when a seed

47:22 Speaker 2: goes to the ground and dies, it brings forth multiple

47:26 Speaker 2: or amazing you know, multiplication of results and fruits, and

47:31 Speaker 2: we want to pray for that in the name of Jesus,

47:33 Speaker 2: that this is not going to go in vain. That

47:35 Speaker 2: you're going to raise people to be bold like Hannah

47:39 Speaker 2: shared about her husband being more bold and vocal. Lord,

47:42 Speaker 2: we thank you for such testimonies, and we pray that

47:45 Speaker 2: many many more souls will be bold enough to share

47:48 Speaker 2: the gospel, to preach about the Word of God, and

47:51 Speaker 2: we're going to see amazing results. In the name of Jesus, Lord,

47:55 Speaker 2: we thank you for this time that you will bless

47:57 Speaker 2: each and every person watching listening from across the glow,

48:01 Speaker 2: that you will challenge them to be bored to fulfill

48:04 Speaker 2: the call of God upon their life. We give you

48:07 Speaker 2: the glory on an embrace in Jesus name.

48:10 Speaker 4: Amen.

48:11 Speaker 2: Amen, guys, thank you so much for watching. I encourage

48:14 Speaker 2: you to like, common, share, and subscribe. If you're watching

48:16 Speaker 2: this on YouTube, or if you're checking this out on

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48:22 Speaker 2: a rating. And Hannah, you also have a YouTube channel.

48:27 Speaker 2: We've not spoken about it before. Guys, I'm going to

48:30 Speaker 2: put her YouTube channel the link to it on the description.

48:34 Speaker 2: I encourage you to check that out as well. Do

48:37 Speaker 2: you mind just sharing a bit about what is your

48:39 Speaker 2: YouTube channel and for those who want to check it out?

48:44 Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure, so thank you by the way for mentioning. Well.

48:47 Speaker 3: My YouTube channel is called Hope in Future Bible Devotions.

48:51 Speaker 3: It started during the pandemic and the whole purpose of

48:55 Speaker 3: it was to encourage people who were down because no

48:59 Speaker 3: one was talking about their struggles during the pandemic. It

49:02 Speaker 3: started there and I said, you know what, if people

49:05 Speaker 3: don't want to talk to me, because I presented myself,

49:08 Speaker 3: I said, hey, guys, if you want to talk to me,

49:10 Speaker 3: go ahead. I'm I'm here, I'm here to I'm here

49:13 Speaker 3: for you. No, not a lot of people came came

49:15 Speaker 3: and opened up. So I said, you know what, I'm

49:18 Speaker 3: just going to bring it to them. And so Hoping

49:20 Speaker 3: Future Revival Devotions came about and it continues until now

49:24 Speaker 3: and I hope. I thank you Lord, by God's grace,

49:27 Speaker 3: it is still being used by to inspire people.

49:32 Speaker 4: That's so good.

49:33 Speaker 2: That's so good. Guys.

49:34 Speaker 4: Check it out.

49:35 Speaker 2: And last word, do you have any word that you

49:39 Speaker 2: would like to say about how about this podcast and

49:42 Speaker 2: my ministry and YouTube channel.

49:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I will say that we are we mentioned earlier.

49:51 Speaker 3: We may come from different backgrounds, different denominations, as we called,

49:56 Speaker 3: but we are team. We are a team because we

50:00 Speaker 3: we have the same purpose, which is to lift the

50:02 Speaker 3: name of Jesus Christ. And so I know for sure

50:06 Speaker 3: with how I've been what I've been encountering with John

50:10 Speaker 3: for the few days that you've known each other, I

50:12 Speaker 3: can hear his heart that and we have the Holy

50:15 Speaker 3: Spirit that can discern what is right. And I honestly,

50:20 Speaker 3: right now I feel that I can just discern at

50:23 Speaker 3: least that John's heart is in the right place and

50:27 Speaker 3: he wants to lift up Christ. So yes, I will say,

50:32 Speaker 3: keep on using your platform for everyone else, I encourage

50:35 Speaker 3: you to keep on supporting, keep on learning from this podcast,

50:41 Speaker 3: and may it be mine or his, but definitely right now,

50:45 Speaker 3: I hope that you are encouraged by John's podcast.

50:50 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thank you, Thank you guys, Bye bye.

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