Giving, Sowing & Money | John Giftah | Vivian Williams (Iconic Worship) Interview (Part 3)

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0:48 Speaker 2: So today I was coming in on the way my

0:52 Speaker 2: mom is texting me and she was like, a real,

0:57 Speaker 2: do you sow into god Kingdom today?

0:59 Speaker 3: Okay?

1:00 Speaker 2: Out of iconic worship we we support few ministries. Okay,

1:03 Speaker 2: there's a home church for iconic worship at at a

1:05 Speaker 2: worship center in Rama, and there are a few other

1:08 Speaker 2: ministries they support.

1:09 Speaker 3: Some moments like it is sold. So yes, Mama, soul.

1:12 Speaker 2: It's just like you know, God is reminding me a

1:15 Speaker 2: preacher once stole Sewing into God's Kingdom is better than

1:19 Speaker 2: investing in the stock market. Wow, okay, and we've experienced

1:23 Speaker 2: that iconic vershion each time we call it guest speaker.

1:26 Speaker 2: We put all the money in the bank them because

1:28 Speaker 2: you know them, you want to sew into them. Within

1:31 Speaker 2: within four five hours we get three times, oh my god,

1:34 Speaker 2: five times and no believe we gave an amount of

1:38 Speaker 2: money to a man of God because he hosted us.

1:41 Speaker 2: Within this before he came out of the house, we

1:43 Speaker 2: got like four.

1:44 Speaker 3: X oh wow.

1:46 Speaker 2: In in in Bangalore, we hosted a very famous Tumbil

1:53 Speaker 2: singer okay, producer and a singer and we have put

1:57 Speaker 2: all the money we had even asked the crowd to

1:59 Speaker 2: so in the ministry. We put all the money in

2:01 Speaker 2: there and within the day ends we have gotten now

2:08 Speaker 2: two point five x wow. You know, so that's true.

2:13 Speaker 2: You know, like you said, some people say, all pray,

2:16 Speaker 2: but you know, if the woman could break their alibis

2:21 Speaker 2: or jar at the feet of Jesus, it is only

2:23 Speaker 2: your wages. She didn't just come and weep. Yeah, she

2:27 Speaker 2: didn't come and weep and Jesus. And ok because worship

2:31 Speaker 2: is sacrifice. Sexuals is costly and you know the entire

2:35 Speaker 2: culture of giving it, even even it is secular people

2:40 Speaker 2: believe in giving, you know, the heart, it's universal law.

2:45 Speaker 3: When you give, it always comes back to you. But

2:47 Speaker 3: obviously not going to.

2:48 Speaker 2: Give with that intention, but we are addicted to given.

2:52 Speaker 2: We always give, We always empty our bank accounts. Wow,

2:56 Speaker 2: if you see it in bank transaction, huge amount of

2:59 Speaker 2: money next day zero huge huge zero, monitor magaon will

3:04 Speaker 2: be like.

3:04 Speaker 3: What was happening? That's so good?

3:08 Speaker 4: I really second that when you talk about giving, right, like,

3:12 Speaker 4: giving has always been my thing as well, like for

3:14 Speaker 4: me not just money. There there was this time where

3:17 Speaker 4: God would just say take up the back in the day,

3:20 Speaker 4: the costliest thing I would ever own would be a watch,

3:23 Speaker 4: like it would be the cost list like based on

3:25 Speaker 4: my own you know, like money right like so, but

3:29 Speaker 4: God would say take up this watch, so it's into

3:32 Speaker 4: this person, and I would just take it and give it.

3:35 Speaker 4: And then I just did this like I think this

3:37 Speaker 4: first time happened. I was in FGAD church and Pastor

3:42 Speaker 4: Sammy was preaching and God is like, this was a

3:44 Speaker 4: costly verses seven thousand back then, it was more than

3:46 Speaker 4: my one month salary that time, and God is like,

3:50 Speaker 4: give it to him, so into him, and I was like, God,

3:54 Speaker 4: it's generally not easy to meet him, so you know, like,

3:58 Speaker 4: if it all I get to meet him, then I'll

3:59 Speaker 4: give it to him. And in the service he uses

4:02 Speaker 4: the word, you know about showing your watch. I was like, oh, shoot,

4:07 Speaker 4: would he do that?

4:09 Speaker 3: Yes?

4:09 Speaker 4: And then that was the day. It was so easy

4:12 Speaker 4: to meet him. And then I took up my watch

4:16 Speaker 4: and I gave it to him. My heart was sinking

4:19 Speaker 4: like there. And then I just walk out of that

4:23 Speaker 4: place and a random person just meets me. The other

4:25 Speaker 4: than watch, the other thing. I love his ring I

4:27 Speaker 4: called the John of the rings, like a lot of

4:29 Speaker 4: the rings.

4:30 Speaker 3: I love rings.

4:31 Speaker 4: So a person just took out a silver ring and said,

4:33 Speaker 4: the Lord told me to give this to you.

4:35 Speaker 3: I was like, okay. Within like a few minutes.

4:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just gave to him. And I'm walking out

4:40 Speaker 4: of the room and a person meets me. So then

4:43 Speaker 4: I knew that this was God and I didn't have watch.

4:47 Speaker 4: And two days later I happened to go to somebody's

4:50 Speaker 4: house to pray for them, and that person is like,

4:53 Speaker 4: I don't know why the Lord is leading me to

4:55 Speaker 4: keep a watch to you. I'm sure you'll have watches.

4:57 Speaker 4: I'm like, I just gave away my watch. I didn't

4:59 Speaker 4: have a watch, you know. And then much later it

5:02 Speaker 4: came to a point where I somebody came to minister

5:06 Speaker 4: in my ministry's service and the Lord was like, give

5:09 Speaker 4: this watch also to him, and I was like, God,

5:11 Speaker 4: I don't have a watch. And then I just took

5:13 Speaker 4: that watch and I gave it to him. He started

5:15 Speaker 4: crying because that was his dream watch. And I was like, okay,

5:20 Speaker 4: and so I've seen that, you know, like when you

5:23 Speaker 4: saw when you have that heart to bless other people,

5:26 Speaker 4: God is going to take care of us. That's the

5:28 Speaker 4: assurance after like, you know, no matter what, So it's

5:31 Speaker 4: you're not I love how passa Joel always says. He says,

5:34 Speaker 4: when you lend, you're not lending to people, You're lending

5:37 Speaker 4: unto the Lord. So there's always that difference. God will

5:41 Speaker 4: never be like, you know what, I'm not going to

5:44 Speaker 4: give back, like I mean, don't give it an intention

5:47 Speaker 4: of getting back. That's when people make the mistake like,

5:49 Speaker 4: oh God, I know I saw this, give me you know,

5:52 Speaker 4: one hundred times next day or something, but don't do it.

5:54 Speaker 3: With that intention. The heart has to be.

5:56 Speaker 4: Yes, the heart has to be in the right place.

5:58 Speaker 4: And then God will definitely show up and show out.

6:02 Speaker 4: So I just pray guys that you will be God

6:06 Speaker 4: will speak to you to so into his ministry as

6:08 Speaker 4: well as my ministry. I hardly I think it's the

6:12 Speaker 4: first time I'm talking with money in any of my

6:14 Speaker 4: podcast or sermon.

6:16 Speaker 3: Yes, I know, this is the first time a moment

6:18 Speaker 3: of my text like that.

6:19 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was on the way here and texting

6:21 Speaker 2: about sewing and giving and she's taking if I sold

6:24 Speaker 2: and give gave? Wow, Okay, she spoke about nears and

6:29 Speaker 2: Sofira hmm about how they lied about selling a piece

6:33 Speaker 2: of land and yes, m to God's kingdom they lied

6:38 Speaker 2: about okay, I sold my land where they kept some

6:39 Speaker 2: to themselves, then the entire piece of the money to

6:44 Speaker 2: the ministry.

6:45 Speaker 3: How they both dropped and dead. It's very cool. I mean,

6:49 Speaker 3: it's one of the most mafia scenes. In the.

6:53 Speaker 2: First lies and drops dead. Sofira comes not aware that

6:56 Speaker 2: her husband is dead.

6:57 Speaker 3: M m.

6:58 Speaker 2: When Peter asked the question, Safira looks into Sofia and say,

7:02 Speaker 2: it's the same people who buried your husband are ready

7:06 Speaker 2: to are racing at the door and they'll bury you

7:09 Speaker 2: to like yeah, amount of tension in that place.

7:13 Speaker 4: Yeah, So don't give out of fear, guys.

7:18 Speaker 3: Yeah.

7:20 Speaker 4: But then, like you said, there is a very serious

7:23 Speaker 4: element to giving. And I think the reason I refrain

7:27 Speaker 4: from talking about is because people have this perception outside

7:31 Speaker 4: like oh, these preachers are after money, you know, like

7:34 Speaker 4: there's this always this underlining perception, and I just my

7:37 Speaker 4: perspective has always been like God will provide when I

7:40 Speaker 4: need it, So I just hast a lot and then

7:43 Speaker 4: I just pour it out, so no matter what.

7:46 Speaker 3: So let's see.

7:47 Speaker 2: Figure for example, you know, we send the QR cod

7:50 Speaker 2: and what's up communities and stuff like that. And recently

7:54 Speaker 2: I'd heard that somebody was making a common that traveling

7:59 Speaker 2: only in flight, why they're doing this? Why are they're

8:02 Speaker 2: doing that? You know, they can travel and pray and

8:05 Speaker 2: they can do they can do that. First of all,

8:08 Speaker 2: you know, we don't want to expression. Second of all,

8:11 Speaker 2: they're the people who don't give. Yeah, true, units people

8:15 Speaker 2: who give count have the best part of the people

8:18 Speaker 2: who give don't the mindset, don't.

8:20 Speaker 3: Really question anything.

8:22 Speaker 4: Yeah.

8:23 Speaker 2: But the people who don't give are the ones or

8:25 Speaker 2: they don't really have money, they don't have this, they

8:28 Speaker 2: don't have that, and blah blah blah and yeah.

8:30 Speaker 3: Yes, so you know, one part is just let it be.

8:34 Speaker 2: Because even the people who are earning money in what

8:38 Speaker 2: do you say from the what it's a secular world

8:42 Speaker 2: in terms of likes of Amazon, Jeff Bezos, yours, they're

8:46 Speaker 2: all criticized to yes, so basically even through ministry they're saying, oh, no,

8:51 Speaker 2: if you earn the money, we're happy that case. Jeff

8:54 Speaker 2: Bezos earned the money, but still people are after him

8:58 Speaker 2: for having all the money in the world. Yeah, the

9:00 Speaker 2: bottom liners people are going to criticize, you know, metal

9:03 Speaker 2: and people are envos angeles of you.

9:05 Speaker 3: So just let it be. That's all.

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